SWAP idea's and help 85 cabby

 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:11 am    Post subject: SWAP idea's and help 85 cabby Reply with quote

getting bored and wanna do something with my cabby, any success stories was hoping to do somethimg with a 16 valve i do already have a rocco upper and lower intakes. ive looked and look but can a 16v run off cis basic and should i look for a 2.0 or 1.8 love to hear some input. and how bad is the wiring lots of slicing or no?
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DasBraun



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i was talking to someone and he threw out the idea of doing a aba bottom with the 8v head and running it off cis. anyone done this and the results?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

search it up on vw vortex. i believe its called a hybrid engine. get a 1.8 jh head ( which came on the 85+ gti's)
and match it to a 2.0 bottom end. makes for a good motor that can rev to 8 grand
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jh is a solid lifter head motor. 85+ is hydro.

it's an easy swap from what i've seen.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i stand corrected. lol
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

88-93 are JH hydraulic
84 (model year) to 88 are JH solid
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha which one do i want.. or is there a way to tell i am certain its not the original motor... i got the cabby from TB , fresh looking head,
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

only way to tell for sure that is easy is by pulling the valve cover, solid lifter heads have 5 bearing caps, hydraulics have 4.

If you swap a hydraulic head onto an earlier block they say to also install the hydraulic engine oil pump.

As for what one, hard to say, solid you have to adjust yourself but ti does have the 5 caps so i think at high rpm it would be more suitable.

Other is hydraulic and build it up with new lifters and i would iamgine it will work fine for pretty much all applications.

Cam choice are also different for each style of head.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an ABA JH head and a big cam in it. If you are doing this sway you want a solid lifter head.

You get some really high compression ratio with this swap.

Running it on CIS is no problem.

Let me know if you want some more info... or if you just want to buy the engine.... got bigger plans for this summer.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i smashed my 87 16v rocco and i asked bernei and he told me that the wire harnesses from 1985-92 in the cabrio is will hook up to the whole rocco fuel management system if you have it, he said all i would ahve to do is play with the fuel lines,

at one point i really wanted to do this swap
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